really 2500-4500 Euro to convert?

[Chase1126]

Originally Posted by Groovie Ghoulie

Yeah, remember the prices are based competitive. If an average american makes 50,000 DOLLARS per year, and the european makes 50,000 EURO per year, it works out to cost about the same "economically". A 13,000 dollar bike here, is sold for 13,000 euro over there. So no, your not going to get the same bike for 8,000 euro just because the exchange rate is different. Just like a Ferrari in europe is sold for 200,000 Euro, in America it is sold for 200,000 Dollars. its global economics.

There is a slight flaw in your reasoning: "Average gross domestic product (GDP) in the US is about 40% higher than average GDP of the EU-15 when measured at purchasing power parity (PPP). " (http://www.thenewfederalist.eu/Europ...e-Economy-Wins)

The price difference comes from taxes. Harleys are expensive in the US. Therefore, they are ridiculously expensive when shipped to other countries. Almost everything made in the US is overpriced in EU.

[BlueMoonSally]

The price difference comes from taxes. Harleys are expensive in the US. Therefore, they are ridiculously expensive when shipped to other countries. Almost everything made in the US is overpriced in EU.

FYI... exported Items are not taxed... only imported items... But the Euro-$ rate makes it a hell of a lot cheeper then in europe... that is the only reason to. But the 2500-4500 Euro "conversion kit" is HD's way of rapeing the little MAN... why have them save a few bones if the company can rape them twice for the same thing


BTW, recent change in the way of importing. HD Europe is charging 450 Euro for a "letter of complyance". A letter that anyone who knows how to google something, could find out them selfs....

[jharback]

Originally Posted by BlueMoonSally

FYI... exported Items are not taxed... only imported items... But the Euro-$ rate makes it a hell of a lot cheeper then in europe... that is the only reason to. But the 2500-4500 Euro "conversion kit" is HD's way of rapeing the little MAN... why have them save a few bones if the company can rape them twice for the same thing


BTW, recent change in the way of importing. HD Europe is charging 450 Euro for a "letter of complyance". A letter that anyone who knows how to google something, could find out them selfs....

If I buy a Harley for $10,000 in the states. When it is shipped here to Europe I pay a 10 per cent customs fee plus a 20 per cent value added tax on the original purchase price. So that $10,000 bike now cost me $13,000 plus shipping plus any changes needed to make the bike meet European Standards (which are different but, not necessarily better than the standards in the states).

So yes, they are taxed. By Europe, not by the states.

If I decide to sell an American Registered car/bike here in Europe to a local european then the car/bike needs to not only be converted to European spec's but, I still have to pay the 10 per cent customs fee and the 20 per cent value added tax based on the new car/bike cost, not the current value.

I tried to do this when I retired. I wanted to convert my Volkswagon Jetta from American Registration to Italian Registration. Because I was military and not selling the vehicle to someone else, customs was willing to waiver the 10% fee but, I would still have been required to pay the 20% value added tax (based on the original $11,000 I paid for the vehicle) plus make all changes required by the European Standards, i.e, change turn signal colors, headlights, etc. Once all changes had been made I would have to take the car to the customs point, pay to have it inspected to ensure that it met all requirements and then pay the $2,200 (VAT) tax. I could then, and only then, register it in Italy.

As far as exporting motorcycles from Europe to the states, if the bike does not have an EPA sticker on it when it arrives in the states it is impounded by customs. You then have to pay impound and storage fee's until you pay to have the bike meet EPA standards and then have it officially approved by the EPA. It end's up costing more than the bike is worth.

[Cezar]

live in Poland, I have about $13, ooo per year. My 2005 Sportster cost nearly $ 6,000
Buddy has worked in Dubai, bought new a Rocker C at half price. Why is there so cheap? This not only taxes, it is also company policy.
Harleys in Poland are from American auctions, are usually damaged motorcycles.